John McCain doesn’t think water boarding is “cruel” or “inhumane”

June 21, 2008

“I said there should be additional techniques allowed to other agencies of government as long as they were not” torture. “I was on the record as saying that they could use additional techniques as long as they were not cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment,” McCain said.

So, since he voted against banning waterboarding, based on his statement above, he doesn’t consider waterboarding to be neither cruel nor inhumane.

During the time of the Viet Nam conflict, very possibly during the time that McCain himself was a POW, read a first-hand account of waterboarding:

Read transcript.“They got a 19-year-old girl in a village near where the Viet Cong hung out at night. And they thought she knew something and they laid her down with her head down hill and put a poncho over her head and one guy on each of her limbs and started pouring water down her tube to simulate drowning. And she thrashed and she turned ghostly white and I called it off – I was stunned and she looked near death and they didn’t get anything from her whether it was she had information and was willing to die rather than give or whether she didn’t know.”

That must have been an anomaly, right? Don’t we NEED that to be effective?

“We just had a meeting yesterday where we had literally seven to 800 years of experience, and no one in that room suggested in any way using violence, using torture, using pressure, using anything because we know it doesn’t work.”

But, but these are different enemies. These are terrorists. They’re more dangerous!

“The fact of the matter is that most of the terrorist leadership is going to talk anyway because they’re narcissists; they’re pathological narcissists. That’s what drives their behavior – this sense of entitlement, this sense that what they’re doing is special and that they have the solution to the world; all narcissists are. That’s part of the pathology. So whether it’s going to take a day or two or three – if this individual, under initial conditions, was treated right, most likely he was going to talk.”

Well, if waterboarding isn’t effective, then why would Washington want to use it?

“…the worst of all possible things in Washington, which is a lot of people talking about a subject about which none of them know much and decisions are then made from that.”

Sounds kind of like the last 7 years, doesn’t it?

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  1. […] I’ve already written on McCain’s support of water boarding even though those who are exp… So none of that here. I’m not an expert, but I’ll listen to them over the suits. If I need an operation, I’m going to listen to the surgeon, not the CEO of the hospital. To fully understand (at least hopefully this is as fully as any of us will get to understanding) what waterboarding is and how unstable in reliability it is, take a look at the video. […]

  2. […] & International Studies, Christopher Hitchens, et al investigated a year ago.  Google or go here or […]

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